Mindset Artistry
Confidence Unleashed: Tricia Campbell's Journey from Runway to Empowerment
What if you could transform your self-confidence and career with the insights of a plus-size supermodel? Join us on the Mindset Artistry Podcast as we sit down with the incredible Tricia Campbell. From her humble beginnings in Montego Bay, Jamaica, to gracing the fashion runways of New York City and serving as Oprah Winfrey's stand-in model for over seven years, Tricia’s journey is a testament to the power of self-belief and resilience. Our conversation dives deep into the essential qualities that have fueled her success and the wisdom she imparts through her Confidence Quiz coaching program, aimed at empowering women worldwide.
Facing the intense pressure of the modeling industry, Tricia shares her personal strategies for maintaining mental and emotional well-being. Discover how faith, deep breathing, and a calm mindset have been her anchors amidst the demands of meeting strict body measurements and the stress of high-stakes fashion shows. We also uncover practical business tips that have kept her ahead of the game, from punctuality and quick thinking to leveraging past experiences for new opportunities. Tricia’s candid stories provide invaluable lessons on the resilience required to thrive in modeling and acting.
As the world of modeling evolves, Tricia has adeptly navigated the shift to virtual fittings, especially during the COVID-19 pandemic. Learn how she adapted to this new landscape, mastering camera angles and lighting setups to continue her work remotely. This episode also highlights the creation of her "Confidence Queens" program, inspired by her personal struggles and aimed at fostering self-love and body positivity. Explore the power of affirmations, genuine confidence, and balancing femininity and professionalism as Tricia shares insights and anecdotes that will inspire and empower you on your journey to success.
What if you could transform your self-confidence and career with the insights of a plus-size supermodel? Join us on the Mindset Artistry Podcast as we sit down with the incredible Tricia Campbell. From her humble beginnings in Montego Bay, Jamaica, to gracing the fashion runways of New York City and serving as Oprah Winfrey's stand-in model for over seven years, Tricia’s journey is a testament to the power of self-belief and resilience. Our conversation dives deep into the essential qualities that have fueled her success and the wisdom she imparts through her Confidence Quiz coaching program, aimed at empowering women worldwide.
Facing the intense pressure of the modeling industry, Tricia shares her personal strategies for maintaining mental and emotional well-being. Discover how faith, deep breathing, and a calm mindset have been her anchors amidst the demands of meeting strict body measurements and the stress of high-stakes fashion shows. We also uncover practical business tips that have kept her ahead of the game, from punctuality and quick thinking to leveraging past experiences for new opportunities. Tricia’s candid stories provide invaluable lessons on the resilience required to thrive in modeling and acting.
As the world of modeling evolves, Tricia has adeptly navigated the shift to virtual fittings, especially during the COVID-19 pandemic. Learn how she adapted to this new landscape, mastering camera angles and lighting setups to continue her work remotely. This episode also highlights the creation of her "Confidence Queens" program, inspired by her personal struggles and aimed at fostering self-love and body positivity. Explore the power of affirmations, genuine confidence, and balancing femininity and professionalism as Tricia shares insights and anecdotes that will inspire and empower you on your journey to success.
This is the Mindset Artistry Podcast. I'm Amanda DeWoe, an actor or actress per your reference, and an inner voice life coach, and I'm Janelle.
Speaker 2:Pulaski, an actor and career and mindset coach. We're your hosts and we're here to flip your mindset, to teach you the artistry of what we learned to keep your mind in check Over the course of our lives.
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Speaker 2:That's good. Hello, hello, welcome back to another episode of the Mindset Artistry Podcast. We're so excited to have our guest today, ms Tricia Campbell. So I'm going to do this wonderful bio about you and then I'm going to get into some questions.
Speaker 2:Tricia Campbell is a plus size supermodel, confidence body image and model coach. Empowering women worldwide is her mission. The Tricia Campbell brand is an experienced, professional tech fit model that fits for companies such as Target, blackpool, marina Group, victoria's Secret, negative, vanity Fair and SheFits named just a few. Patricia is the industry's perfect size, xxl, 1x and size 38DDD, 40dd, us bra fit model. In addition to being a professional virtual tech fit model, trisha believes as women we must reclaim our inner beauty and unleash our unshakable confidence. Helping women to achieve their unstoppable confidence, trisha developed her 90-day signature coaching program called Confidence Quiz, and we'll put more info about that below.
Speaker 2:Hailing from Montego Bay, jamaica, trisha was surrounded by the love and support of her family, who instilled in her the message that commitment, persistence and faith are unfailing keys to achieving success. Holding tightly to the wisdom she received, trisha took bold steps towards realizing her dreams by attending the fashion institute technology FIT in New York City. After earning a degree in fashion design, trisha began working for a noted fashion designer. While working for the designer, she was often asked to double as a plus size model and many opportunities later Trisha became an in-demand, full-time plus size model requested by numerous fashion industry leaders, and I love this. Trisha is also known for being Oprah Winfrey's stand in model for over seven years and counting, which could be amazing, and there's so, so many amazing things here. I think I'm going to put it below because we want to hear your beautiful voice and I want to hear everything that you have to say, and you can check out more publications below and also find her on runways in Paris, new York, miami, uk and Jamaica.
Speaker 2:Okay, patricia, let's kick it off. We met modeling and I think we also both knew Anthony Higgins, as also I think we met at the same time and, oh my gosh, I miss Anthony. He's one of my favorite agents. He believed in me at such a young age. Was he one of my favorite agents? He believed in me at such a young age. Was he one of your first agents, or did you have other agencies that you worked with in the beginning?
Speaker 3:First of all, thank you, ladies, for having me on the cast. This is amazing. Anthony Higgins was one of my first agents in New York City and he really believed in me. You got to do business. So I went in and I was like I want to model for, like I want to model for all the big you know companies. And he was like, all right, I'll see where you want to go. So he really believed in me and, um, we made a great team. I think we were together for like 17 years almost. He was my agent. I really love and appreciate him. Yes, Amazing.
Speaker 1:I just love your, your day, and just like your brightness. So tell me.
Speaker 3:Your greatness. So tell me, how has your uniqueness and your personality fed your career in all the ways that it has up until this particular moment? Oh so, my personality. So I'm born again to be in Jamaica. You know, we grew up in the sun, by the beach. I'm just loving people on a whole. I'm knowing that. You know, know, you're one of a kind. You're amazing. Nobody's two handprints are the same. So from a young age my mom taught me that. But even though I was a tomboy, I was never girly. I thought I was a guy, like seriously, so that was a whole other thing to itself until my mother sent me to finishing school and then, with my, I guess, like vivacious personality, those coaches taught me how to not be myself but how to really use my personality and become like brighter, in a calmer way, you know, because, like back in the days, I'll be like yeah. So I asked it like of that.
Speaker 2:I love it. Yeah, um, I'm still a tomboy and I'm still trying to figure it out. Hopefully one day I do do so. Adele and Anthony helped me so much. It's so amazing Like there's a similar thing where they were like girl, get your nails done.
Speaker 2:Like what? What is going on Like nails? I've never had a manicure I hadn't. So, anyway, any advice you have for models? You coach models about confidence and everyone thinks it has to be about you know how you look or something. But it's not. You know, when I started modeling, I'm a size eight, an eight, 10, I'm a medium and I was. I became anorexic for a while because they told me you have to be a two, you know. I didn't know about production fit, and then they were like you know, go up in size, and I was like it doesn't matter what size a person is, as long as it's healthy for them. Well, I'm happy that I never gave up. But what advice do you have for people? And also tell us a little bit about your journey. When people tried to make you something you were, and how you worked through that and prevailed.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's a great question. So for me, the first time I was fat shamed I was 13 years old. So after I finished finishing school, I'm all in school. A great friend of mine, he was like oh my god, you're beautiful, miss jamaica is coming to town, so you gotta enter miss jamaica. I'm like, okay, cool, I'm 13 years old. I'm like all right, I'm gonna enter miss jamaica. I I enter Miss Jamaica. I did my talent, I'm doing good.
Speaker 3:Everything answered my question nicely. So one of the judges, she brought me to the side and she's like listen, you're beautiful, you're gorgeous, you can make it to Miss Universe. But however, you are the biggest one in the competition, we need you to lose those hips. Get your tummy down, try to get like two sizes down. I'm 13 years old. So I literally go home. I tell no one I'm like because I'm a tomboy. So I'm like, whatever In my masculine energy, I'm like I'm going to show her I'm going to lose all this hip. So I go Within.
Speaker 3:I had like two months to do it. So for two months straight, ladies, I was drinking nothing but water I just used every day. I fainted, almost died, um, my menses kind of stopped. My whole body went into shock. So that was my first like body thing that I went through and then only to find out I was only 13. They needed our paperwork for to go to the finals and they were like you're only 13, you gotta be 18. So I did that and almost killed myself.
Speaker 3:Um, at that age, um, you know, trying to be something I'm not. So my thing to women is or little girls, never try to be something that you're not. If people can't accept you the way you are, well too bad, and I know it's easier said than done, but you don't want to kill yourself, you don't want to get sick and you just don't want this mindset to. You know it plays with your mind. Am I too fat? Am I too skinny? What should I eat?
Speaker 3:You know I'm going to kill myself. I'm going to go for plastic surgery. There's nothing wrong with plastic surgery if that's what you want, but you want to love yourself for who you really are. So, coming to America and becoming a model and meeting Anthony and all my other coaches that I've had and people around me're really, I still have even a body coach today. She called me today because in my body right now I'm losing a lot of muscle and she's like come on, girl, like you gotta live some weight and you know so it's good to have good people around you who could see life into you and really love you genuinely. I want to see you win, no matter what size you are.
Speaker 1:So that's, that's my advice there and how I got uh better with um the whole body image issue I love it, thank you for sharing, because I feel like that is a conversation that kind of gets, as I say, brushed under the rug constantly, especially among women of color, and there's like this perceived image that we have to live and fit into and we don't, because our bodies are not built that way.
Speaker 1:Um, and like, I'm a very square body naturally, but I don't have the hips compared to some of my other members of my family, so I was very thin naturally, but it just, at the same time, culturally I didn't quite fit the norm, and so I love that you share that about your, your body. And at 13, that's just it happens so often to be ingrained in us as adults and then we don't love ourselves, who we are and as we get older or mature in life, um, so, with that, what was? This is a two-part question the current mindset that you have, where you love yourself, you know, and your body, and it's changing. How did you develop that one? And then two, what are top three points that you would want someone to keep in mind as they start to begin a career in this industry?
Speaker 3:So when you're going into something, it seems fun, it seems glamorous, so you got to do your research and you have to know that it's a business. That's the biggest misconception, I think a lot of young girls and women or anyone who's going into the business. It is a B business, first and foremost, of course you know you got to pay your own taxes.
Speaker 3:Can we talk about that? You got to have your own medical, you know your own retirement, like all these things. People and sometimes the agents don't really tell you up front. So those three things are definitely. I know it's not the sexiest and all of that. Nobody really talks about that, but that's one thing that you have to definitely know, right. So, uh, for going forward, I believe it's mindset, Because as you're going along as a model in the journey of modeling, you're going to get beat down.
Speaker 3:When I say beat down, you'll go to castings and all that and they're like is your arms very long for your body? Is your torso too long? Time is very long for your body. Is your torso too long? Yes, and so your mindset has to be so strong.
Speaker 3:And what I did because I one time I almost had a nervous breakdown because I one of my dream plans that I always wanted to work for was, um, to see Leigh Bryant. Right, so I was a full-time, that's one of the five companies that you want to work for and anthony sent me the casting and I was late. So as a germanian, again, we're known to be late, so I had you know I have to work on my time. That's another thing that I have to say to models of oncoming or actors are you have to always be on time, right? So the mindset now after I went through all of that, when the casting directors left, everybody was gone I like literally had a nervous breakdown because I was coming all the way from midtown all the way down to the village.
Speaker 3:You know, you know, you know how it is Traffic, it was raining and I got there I was like, oh my God, I'm finally here. I got my book in my hand, everything Doors closed, they're all gone. So try your best to be on time right. So I didn't know how to handle all this pressure, all of that. And for me, when I turned my life over to God, that's when I was able to change my mindset and know that, tricia, listen, what is for you is for you, no matter what happens. You're wonderfully, beautifully made. No one, nothing, no time, no anything. Because once God says yes, it's yes. Maybe that was just not an alignment for you.
Speaker 3:I know it sounds like an excuse now because I was late, but back then, having a nervous breakdown, I literally did not know how to manage what happened to me, so I went into a tailspin. It was summer, it was hot, my heart was pumping my blood was boiling was pumping, my blood was boiling.
Speaker 3:I was like now, with coaching that I have had from different coaches, I know I have my spiritual mom too. She always teaches me take deep breaths, say your little prayer in your head, calm yourself down. So as a model, influencer or actor, you always have to know how to just take those deep breaths. It's going to be okay, okay and go with that yes, I love all this.
Speaker 2:You're definitely speaking my language and it's so wild this story you shared about when you were 13, because I was like trish and I are so much alike as well. Like I, I went to they had conventions where I'm from, in Pennsylvania, because there was no fashion there, and so I went and they were like you'd be perfect, but you have to be these measurements. And I was just like, oh, okay, because then I was like more of a size, like 10. I was 16. So I was like I can do that and I kind of pieced together all this dieting in my mind that I had been taught.
Speaker 2:You know, my mom was like, oh, the protein shouldn't be bigger than your fist. She said that at some point. You know she wasn't telling me, she just I've literally pieced things together. Oh, and then like just vegetables, lunch I just had a protein bar, breakfast was oatmeal, no sugar, and I got on a bike every day and like that wrestling bag, you know, like the plastic bags to in neoprene shorts and everything, and I did it. I mean I went from a size like because I was a junior size, right, like 10, 11, to a size 5 in two months and my hair started falling out. And then, yeah, I got there and they measured me and I was so proud of myself and I worked so hard and I was so excited. And I get there and they're like sorry, like your waist is still not small enough Because of my rib cage and my hip bone, because I'm a broad person like my bones are.
Speaker 2:I literally can't get smaller than like 28. I just can't. So the rest of me could get to like 34 hip, you know, and like now I'm a 40 hip, which looks a lot better. But yeah, yes, it does. And so can you talk a little bit more about the business side and what people don't understand? And how do you get jobs like, for example, tricia?
Speaker 2:I ran last week. I ran, I do place and they need a model and I was like, okay, but I have like a full day. She's like it's competitive. So if you can't get here, did you say competition? So then I literally ran and I got there. I was like, y'all, you got four minutes. I have a client in five or eight minutes I have to go. And so I get in there and then I'm like back behind the folding thing and I noticed it's got like a TJ Maxx tag on it. Yes, I've worked for other companies at TJ Maxx, so then once I get out there I start talking about those clients and it's all based in truth. But other models were like I didn't even think to do that, or I didn't run or I was late.
Speaker 3:I don't know where I picked that up, maybe desperation, but I would love to have for people your business tips beyond balancing a ledger. So being a model like a professional model, 20 years I'm going on right now. Thank you Jesus. First and foremost, you have to want it, you have to be confident, no matter how high your courage is, how low or whatever. It has to come from your soul, it has to come from your heart. I always tell people that modeling you can't choose modeling, modeling chooses you. And sometimes you all know there's highs, there's lows, there's super highs and there's middle ground right.
Speaker 3:So again, for me, I try to keep in the mindset of abundance and prosperity all the time. Like you really have to focus on. You can't focus on lack, you can't focus on okay, where's my next client gonna come from? You have to know that once you start putting in the years, especially as a product-centric model, that your reputation is known and you're giving value right. Your value is everything and your relationship that you have with people, because Janelle is saying they called her right, and your relationship that you have with people, because you know, saying they called her right, same with me. I'm here in florida or I'm in new york, but I mostly do my virtual fittings here, people from new york. They still call. They're like oh my god, I gotta ship stuff to you. You gotta fit. You know all that amazing stuff. So you have to know your value and you have to know your work. You gotta know theologies that the designers are using, the producers, the marketing people, the producers, the casting directors. You have to know what they want and you have to know that you are worthy and, of course, you are going to come in and bring value to what they want. You're going to get that thing done in like two minutes.
Speaker 3:Nobody want to be on set, especially in acting. Okay, I have done commercials and I have done music videos and stuff like that on television and these people work so hard lighting people, production people everybody works hard. But nobody want to be upset all day. They want a model or actress to come in and be like bang, bang, bang, bang, we're done, let's go right. So you want to know that you are so skillful, you're so valuable and your energy level is so up there.
Speaker 3:Nobody don't want no diva on no set, right I? I work with the best of them, um, with what's his name? Oprah's photographer, ruben Avendar, like he's one of the best in the world and this man does not speak. He doesn't really speak. So when you're on set, you got to know what you're doing, right? It's kind of like you got to read the energy of the photographers and the stylists and makeup artists everybody that you're working with and say I'm here for a reason, I'm here to get these, the script done, to get the ad done, to get everything done. And hey, when everything comes out, you definitely know that it's a win-win situation because you did your best.
Speaker 1:I started modeling. I did like Barbizon. I did a pageant when I was younger and then I was, you know, after high school I did a little bit of modeling and then I realized, with my body started changing. I put on the like the freshman 10, 15, you know I was used to being a size like two and then I went to almost a six in respect, respect, I think my body is the way it works 10 pounds in those places. So I had to get familiar with my body.
Speaker 1:And then I realized there was a realization that I didn't want to do modeling as much as I thought I did, and so I right, and that's probably why I'm like I also might have been the fact that, because I was gaining weight, people were starting to talk about my body in a different way and they were like you've got to lose weight. And I was like but I love my body, even though I gained weight, I can't do much about it besides what I was doing and school and everything. And so I kind of stepped away and then I ended up finding acting, and acting was like the thing that I had to know all the terminology. I need to be there on time, like all the things, the energy you talked about, like understanding the business, I did that with acting and to this day, as heavy as it may seem, I still find the fun in it, whereas, like modeling, I'll do if it's someone contacts me, if it's fun, if it's associated with acting or but if it's like how it was, I don't think necessarily I would go back to it just because I don't feel like I have a passion for it. So I commend both of you for doing that.
Speaker 1:And here's a realization is like you need to ask yourself the honest question, like you said do you want to be in this industry, whatever industry that may be? It's a very valid question because you're going to have to go above and beyond, because it's competitive, but not in the way of like what's I'm, that I want that job. I don't want her to get it. It's more so that, like you said, having that mindset of what is mine is going to come to me, but you've got to prepare for when it comes to you. Like you said, you go on that set and need to know the terminology. You need to understand who the talkers are. So all to say is like do the work and know that, no matter what level you're in, whether you're an A-list or a top model, the work still has to be done. Work still has to be done.
Speaker 1:But with that said, I'm curious on how you you know you've been in the industry for quite a long time how did you go from you know doing in-person production, production fit to now doing it virtually, because I think that's pretty cool? I didn't know that that was an actual option where they shipped you clothes and then you would do it, because I know from janelle she goes in person. Is that something that another person out there, a model who was interested in doing that instead of going in person? Or maybe they live abroad and they live in a different city but still want to be able to do like new york fashion and things like that, like how did they go, how did you go about that and how accessible is it?
Speaker 3:a newcomer, how I started my virtual fitting I it was all because of COVID. I know so many people, so many families lost loved ones from COVID. But COVID really changed a lot of things, like remotely, virtually, and I during that time my soul is always closer to Jamaica and all that stuff we were doing virtual I just COVID heavily and I was like I can literally do this from anywhere in America. I want to go somewhere where it's warm, it's tropical, it's close to home, it's close to Jamaica, and I was like you know what? I'm just going to go for it. My clients, a lot of them, came with me.
Speaker 3:I have new clients now sometimes, but you just again, you just have to tap into the moment. What is for you is for you wherever it's supposed to be for you, right, and you cannot be opposed to the back and forth, because I still go back and forth to New York back here, new York back here. So it's all in a lot of answers. You know we love to travel, we love that freedom, we love to be all over the world.
Speaker 3:So that's kind of my vibe and I just prayed for that alignment and that's what happened. But for a new model, who is why I love model coaching too, because a lot of women and kids they feel like, okay, I am in Nebraska, I'm in Nashville or somewhere where it's not a fashion capital. You could definitely do some virtual modeling. What you would have to do is get in touch with the corporate office for, uh, that makes those samples and see if you are the right size. And there's a lot of companies who are not only in New York but they're in different states or countries that are willing to work with you virtually if you know what you're doing.
Speaker 3:But virtual modeling is a whole other set of training. You have to know camera angles, the different, they use Zoom teams, they use all these different apps and stuff like that. So you have to go into it again. So I had to read, I had to teach myself lighting, I had to learn about what a tripod is, what phone settings are all the different, how to measure myself in front of the camera, like all these amazing new stuff. So it's just I always say whatever you want, there's ways how to do it. You got to find a mentor, find a coach who's doing it for you and just win it successfully and go for it.
Speaker 2:I got a lot of work, especially for acting without an agent and it was because I was reaching out to companies directly and that goes back to looking at it like a business and I joke with Amanda, it's kind of funny. Like modeling, I have a little less fear than acting, because acting there's all these casting directors same thing with modeling. But I had more fear around the casting directors because TV is really what I really really want to do. Um, but then I used and this is what's great for everybody listening Look at your experience in other parts of your life and apply that to all. Like in modeling, I had no fear of being like I'm the solution. Like, oh, you need a size eight. Like it's a specific size eight, 10, whatever.
Speaker 2:Here hello, here's my stuff, but for some reason, with acting, we get nervous about that, but it's quite literally the same and so I've used that and I want to know a lot more about. Well, two things I really want to get into the confidence queens, all about that. But also, you know, like you said, modeling chooses you, and I try to tell people if you have a desire, the dream is within reach. I don't believe we're given desires and strong desires to do something if we weren't created to do that. I don't believe that.
Speaker 2:So you got to work on your technique and your craft, but it's. It's there for a reason and so, for whatever reason, I'm grateful that I had that and I went for it, even with so many doors being slammed in my face. So what is that for you? Like, how do you keep getting up and going at it and evolving, like you're speaking about, like you knew, like, okay, I have to learn lighting, and you were just like fine, let's just do this, because other people maybe don't have that or they're scared. I'd love to know more about your intuition around all that. And confidence cleans oh wow, confidence cleans.
Speaker 3:Wow, one of my programs I created like three years ago during COVID, when we were in lockdown because I was coaching models. Already. I would go into a store and I would be trying something. And she's beating up on herself. I'm like man, I really like this dress, but I gotta look some way. My belly is looking big. I'm literally going to be like listen, you are healthy. As far as you know, you're not in a wheelchair, love yourself. You know.
Speaker 3:I found myself doing that all the time, even in bathrooms, like when I would go out to dinner. I'll be in the store. I don't be hearing women like really beating up on themselves, like, oh, I don't like how I look. I gotta, you know. I would literally come on. I'd be like what are you talking about? You're a queen, you're beautiful, you know. Because what happened, what really pushed me into that direction? To my mom died of colon cancer a couple years prior to that. It really gave me an aha moment. I was like, okay, all right, girl, it's not really about the outward body, but you're so. Of course you want to eat healthy, you want to work well, no matter what size you are all of. And then I went through a crazy breakup. I was with someone for like 10 years. We went through a crazy someone.
Speaker 3:I thought I was going to marry to all of that. And I literally had to get coaching and my first coach, my relationship coach, Mr Paul Seabrooks, and I love him, my relationship with Mr Paul Seabrooks and I love him, and he really instilled certain things in me about my worth, my value and all of that. And then, after I was working with Oprah too, and see Oprah and see how she encouraged people, I was like all right, I'm feeling in my heart like I need to serve, I need to help women who are down on themselves, women who lack self-esteem, lack confidence, and my piece is always that unsolvable confidence, that real confidence, because a lot of us we go through yeah, I'm confident, yeah, but are you really confident? Like seriously, seriously, you know and I had to even go through that with myself because I get back to be in Jamaica and we are very bold we're like I'm proud, I'm better, but deep down sometimes we're so hurt and we're so lost and we're so nervous and we're in fear, but yet so we're like, yeah, I'm confident, oh, oh, oh, yeah. So I help women to really get down to the bottom of what's stopping you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you say you want to be on camera. Yeah, you want to be an actress. You want to do all these things. You want to write your book, you want to go back to school. You want to do all this, but what is stopping you, like you know? So that's where I was, like I'm going for it. I became a coach and confidence body image.
Speaker 1:I think there's this a misconception, like you said, of what confidence is versus like facade. You know, putting a facade on. Like you know, dress the job you want, not the job you have, but what is true confidence oh wow.
Speaker 3:So true confidence is really understanding who you are and what you are. Right, it's really about you, it's not about another person. And what happens with a lot of us as young women? We tend to compare ourselves. So no, so what?
Speaker 3:I always advise all of my clients first and foremost, you have to know where you're from, like, if you can't do a test or do something, maybe your great grandmother, your grandmother, like, give you a little history of your people, where they were from, like region and all this stuff. So first, so then that will instill in you. Okay, yeah, I know who I am. Right, maybe they weren't the greatest people, but at least you know that, okay, I was italian. Okay, I mean, I, you know, grandma was from japan or something you know. So then you, you get that power in yourself, and and confidence is knowledge too. So you have to read, you have to keep yourself so versed on everything right, and that's why I call my program confidence queens too, because, yes, you're a royalty, you're valuable, you're worthy, but you also have to fill up your mindset with new things, because the world has changed and it's changing. So I just learned that I started this program when the world was like in the verse of changing and it's changed right now and so many women just want to get into their feminine energy too.
Speaker 3:That's something that I work with women also on. Sometimes when we come from larger cities or we come from a family where you always see your mother, where she's like you know she's working all the time, like she's getting things done, like you're like, oh, I don't need a man, like all this stuff, you know even the way how you walk. So one of my clients, one of my top clients, who is in my 90-day program, was she's a graduate, she's a politician in Jamaica, well-educated woman, well, well-spoken, all of this. And she came to me and she was like Tricia you know the men in the parliament they don't really listen to me, they don't connect with me. So I had to work with her on her confidence and her femininity together. Because the femininity sometimes we're scared to be feminine because we don't want to be judged, we don't want to be sexually looked up, looked down on or anything. So I had to really work with her, I think within like two weeks of being in my program the men were like eating out of her hand.
Speaker 3:Like you know, whatever she presented, they were up for it. They were. So I had to literally teach her how to walk again in her feminine energy, how to speak, how to enter a room, and sometimes I was like, oh my god, it's me coaching this woman. You know what I mean. But I also had coaching again with all the years of finishing school, modeling, doing other coaching too. Um, I I really love this stuff because a lot of women in the business world you know you can touch your hair. You're doing a presentation. You know it's not, it's not sexual, it's you're a woman. Okay, your hair is probably coming in your eye. It's okay to do that, right.
Speaker 3:So, and even the way how you walk, you know, the harder everybody's hearing my boots on the floor. That means, you know, everybody has to listen to me. No Right, this versus this.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, it's so much more inviting I grew up also very similar to both of you, tomboy. I grew up with a bunch of boys. That's what was very normal to me, so I didn't know how to be feminine and it wasn't until, like I, I think again when I hit barbizon, that I actually knew what that was, and they taught me how to be feminine walk in heels and that was something I wanted but just didn't know how to do. I saw it in my mom, because she worked in Wall Street and so she was always looking beautiful and had the shoes and all the things. But I never saw myself and I was very young, I was only like 12, 13. So at that point I shouldn't be seeing myself as a grown woman anyway. But the point is I didn't know how to tap into that femininity because I was surrounded by boys and I felt like I had to match that. I love that.
Speaker 1:We have a story where, you know, feminism is like we were all about equality and all these things and we kind of lost the aspect of being a woman in a way, just living enough and finding that balance, and so I love that you're teaching that, because I worked in the corporate world and I didn't know this at the time and I wish I did, because I would have stand right down a lot more, I would have, uh, been able to tap into my, my inner voice.
Speaker 1:And that's what I coach on is how to tap into that inner voice, navigating the corporate world, able to stand up for yourself when you have an idea. I know it's like to have an idea kind of like, hey, I have an idea and then like, very whisper it, and then it's like to have an idea kind of like, hey, I have an idea and then like, very whisper it, and then it's like, hmm, I don't sound so confident about that. What does it contribute to our team? Even though I know it can. I just didn't know how to articulate that and feel confident in my voice because I felt judged or didn't again know how to navigate that feminine and masculine. So I love that you share that and coach that and how that can not only, uh, transcend into the corporate world, but also in acting and modeling and being able to embrace that on both ends and still be able to be listened to and moving with intent. You don't always have to be like, yeah, in your face, you can still stay back it's cool.
Speaker 1:Less is best, too. I've realized, you know, what is, um, something that you would want any woman girl out there to walk with as they approach their life, whether it's acting, modeling, creative field that they should hone within themselves as well as to nurture within themselves. I know you talked about caring for your body and caring for your mindset, but sometimes there's just one little thing that you really have to work on in order to fold into other things. So what would you, you know, suggest any woman out there who's going to approach a career that's creative?
Speaker 3:I would say affirmations. Affirmations are key to being in the entertainment industry In other industries too, but really in the entertainment industry, whether you're a model an other industries too, but really in the entertainment industry, whether you're a model, an actress, influencer, as long as you're in front of the camera, you're in front of the public, you're getting ridiculed, you're getting judged, you're either way. Oh she's beautiful, oh she's fat, everything. So you have to know in your mindset who you really are. So what I really do and I help my clients to do this too, my coaching clients is get up in the morning. When you get up, of course, I normally go to bed and give myself a high five. So you give yourself a high five Like we're here, we did it.
Speaker 3:You know I believe in God, so I'm like, thank you, god, we're here, we did it. You know I believe in god, so I'm like, thank you, god, we're here, we did it another day time to be, uh, I thank you for letting me be a conscious creator. I call myself a conscious creator because we get to create, whether we're doing self. I do a lot of self castings too, self-tape castings, so that's a lot, a big part of my day also. So I thank God for that. And then I say like three affirmations whatever it is, you want something that resonates with you. If you want to be a millionaire, you say I am a millionaire. Maybe you don't want to be a millionaire. You know you're not going to say that. But if maybe you want to travel, you say, okay, I get paid to travel. During my modeling or my acting Like you could say that.
Speaker 3:And the body keeps a lot of women struggling with the whole body. You know you don't even want to see yourself naked in front of the mirror. Strip yourself down and say I love my body, touch, grab your belly, grab your shoulders, grab yourself. I'd say thank you for this body, this healthy, loving body. My blood is well, my skin is well. Thank you, just be in gratitude. So affirmations are everything. And remember, don't only just say it, just to say it, you have to say it from within. If you have to repeat it two times, three times, but do it in the mirror and don't be afraid to look yourself in the mirror, no matter what you're going through or what you think.
Speaker 3:Just always remember that you're wonderfully and beautifully made in God's image. So that means you're like God, you're beautiful, your light is here to be shined. So don't let. Maybe you go to a casting and got really beat down. You gotta now we have our phones. When you get out of there maybe you can't find a mirror. Just put the phone camera on yourself and say I'm beautiful no matter what. So you do your affirmations and that I'm telling you that will. I wish I knew that when I started modeling.
Speaker 3:Right now, like yeah I'm mad, ladies, like I'm telling you nervous right now. I'm speeding up on myself, all this stuff and it's like maybe like four yeah, like six, six, seven years I've always started doing these things and everything changed for me. I was starting to book more jobs because you know the producers and the casting directors, they could sense when you're not confident, when you have that fake confidence. I remember when I first started modeling and I wanted to put Basie's e-com so bad, actually it was e-com and a fashion show they were going to have in their store. And I get to 34th Street in the corporate office and the casting was like maybe 150 floors.
Speaker 3:So I get in the elevator. It's a market. I get in the elevator, I'm like rushing, I'm sweating, my jeans is falling off. I'm like, oh my god. So I get like really like flustered because I love castings. I feel like castings is like it lets you know that you still got it and you love it and you know you get to see the other girls, who your competition is and all that. So I get very excited on a casting. You would think I would get more excited on a booking. I do too, but I love casting.
Speaker 3:So in the elevator. I'm like okay, so this is why, for a lot of young models too, you have to get training to help to deal with these things, also, to know how to handle this. So I'm in the elevator, I get off the 16th floor and I'm like fixing elevator. I get off the 16th floor and I'm like fixing myself and I have my book and the elevator opens and the casting director is sitting right in front of the elevator. So the minute you get off the elevator you should be looking fabulous, pulled together, and start walking for her. I mean she was.
Speaker 3:When I say fabulous, she was sitting there with her no pipe, just like this. You can step right back in the elevator, please. And that was that. Please, walk for you, ali. She was like no, get back in the elevator, that's it. Yeah, so that was one of my first like girl, no matter where you are. And one more thing I want to add to young models and actors and influencers Everybody is a photographer now, so you always have to be on right, a photographer now, so you always have to be on right. And I'm not saying stay on, just be yourself, but just know that you always have to be on, because everybody is a film director, cameraman, everything. Your kids, your mom, like everybody, got a camera right no, I agree, I uh.
Speaker 2:One time somebody like saw me on the subway and took a picture. You know I was like a joke, uh, but I looked like really not so great. So I was like, oh my gosh, I and and I love that I think the most embarrassing casting story like I've ever had was like it was for a Peloton commercial and I have done the bikes where you click in. I've done that, but my nerves were too intense.
Speaker 2:So I look like Bambi, like it was like a concrete floor, cement floor, and they have the shoes on, and then it looks like I'm trying to skate, like I'm ice skating, as I can't walk in these things. And then I get on the bike and they're all staring at you and you're just to easily click in, which I've done so many times my nerves got to me. I look like bambi it was, and anyway I didn't book that, but I think, yeah, I go when I I just the way for acting or modeling, like still now, like before I have a photo shoot, I look up the company and their previous photos and everybody has a style and I practice before I get to the set or before I go to the go.
Speaker 3:See, good advice, you know that's, that's good definitely yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:It's helped me so much because it's like I kind of have this weird type of confidence where my higher self is like, yeah, and just like I do the thing and then two days later I feel so embarrassed so I don't know what it is, where the confidence comes from. But oh, my goodness, it's been so much fun. We have to go, but do you have any final words for our audience that you really want them to know?
Speaker 3:so time to hit the ladies. This was such a rad conversation. It got my blood flowing and my juices going, yes. So my advice to anyone whether you want to be an actress in commercials, TV film, whatever it is, remember that you are put here for a reason. God did not put that desire in your heart for nothing. What is for you is for you, I'm telling you. I did not know I would be Oprah Winfrey's standing model and I always wanted to work with her. That desire was in my heart. So another thing that you have to do, another thing that you have to do I definitely believe in writing the vision down and making it plain, and it will come to pass. That's all I gotta say yes, yes, the plan.
Speaker 2:I love it and then having that flow and being flexible with it but still focused. It's just be like I don't want to make a plan, I'm a creative and that means that I'll be like stuck to the and it's like just make the plan and then you can adjust as you go. But oh my gosh, trisha, thank you so much for joining us and we'll put the links below for everything your instagram and everything you do and your confidence queens. I mean, I'm gonna take the course because I am so much to learn and vice versa.
Speaker 3:you know, there's a lot of art in there too, and I'm getting more commercials.
Speaker 2:We'll do it All right. Thank you so much, everybody, and we'll see you next time.
Speaker 1:And that's a wrap on this episode of Mindset Artistry Podcast. Don't forget to like share and subscribe. Catch us every Thursday for a new episode to help you master the art of your mindset. Got it? Yes, okay, cool.